The account of my NDE and STE

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The account of my NDE and STE

Post by iaminsane » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:33 am

Below you will find my story as I can best understand it at this point in time. I am not sure if this is an NDE or a spiritually transformative experience, but I realise now that it must be shared, for the sake of at least one person who may have had a similar experience.

So I will preface by stating that I am unsure whether what I experienced was an NDE or a spiritualy transformative experience. I think I actually did die at one stage only to wake up again 2 years in the past. I must also explain that in addition to my first experience I had another one last night. I will attempt to detail both below.

To begin with I was raised as a protestant, by the time I had finished my final year of high school I had become what I can only describe as a vitriolic atheist whose only faith was in science and reason (think one of Richard Dawkins' acolytes). 

I remained an atheist throughout my university years studying geology and geophysics at university. I entered my degree in 2011 with promises of jobs and wealth, yet when i had finished the mining industry in australia had collapsed. I still somehow managed to find employment briefly as a geophysicist for a couple of months in 2014 immediately after I had graduated.

Shortly before I got the job however I had a dream. In the dream, my brother and I (we were the open atheists in our family) were playing in the snow with a black greyhound, this greyhound was friendly and brought us many gifts that we enjoyed. After a short while however a white greyhound appeared, this greyhound scared the black greyhound away and we could both tell it was furious with us. It tore up the gifts that the black greyhound gave us and scared us both off a cliff. I woke in a sweat and upon asking my brother if he had a dream like that he said no but it sounded like the black greyhound was satan and the white greyhound God. 

I forgot about that dream for the next two years only to vividly remember it when my NDE or STE began.

Anyways, the job I got I hated with a passion and was as a matter of fact overjoyed when I was retrenched during end of financial year culling of the mining companies ranks. I was not however to find fulfillment or gainful employment over the next two years.

Instead I wasted my time packing boxes in a warehouse unable to find any work related to the field I had studied; except for one occassion where i did short term work in mount Isa in Queensland. That ended in my humiliation and the loss of my last hope that I would ever be employed in my field. (you'll see why this is all relevant shortly).

At the end of 2015 I decided I needed a change, I had become depressed, my relationships with my friends had deteriorated and I felt that a new start was needed. I applied for and was accepted into the ANU (Australian National University) to do a Masters Degree in Strategic and Defense Studies.

Here is where the supernatural part of my experience begins. I became so anxious about my degree, the morality of it, and how I had ruined my life. At the same time I started experiencing extreme deja vu to the point where I became convinced I had lived these moments before (indeed I would find out I had). On the 24th of March my anxiety and stress got to the point where I finally dropped out of my degree, additionally I became aware that all that was happening to me was punishment from God. I went to the movies that night and watched a movie called the Witch. I left it so anxious and so aware of my deja vu that I realised I had infact been in this very moment before. Literally every step I took, every breath movement and interaction I could see 5 or so seconds before it happened and as events happened as i predicted my anxiety grew and grew.

I went home to the apartment I was staying In and decided to walk to the shops and buy some strong alcohol. As i was walking home from the shops I saw standing infront of me in the street a black greyhound. There was no owner near by and I was all alone in the street at dark staring at this greyhound. It looked at me intently and then immediately memory of my dream two years prior came flooding back. I ran home and lay in bed, furiously praying to God for forgiveness and at the same time for his judgement and destruction of me (indeed I became aware that that is what i was undergoing). The next day when i woke up to leave to Sydney for my birthday I could not stop thinking about the dream and the greyhound, as the bus took me back to sydney the entire length of the trip there was a truck hauling damaged cars infront of it with the license plate not normal. 

I arrived in Sydney for my birthday but found no Joy in the celebrations, I was terrified and out of my wits, I remember hearing a voice (not a physical voice but rather a voice in my head) that said three things would happen. I would be terrified of witches, terrified of my family and I would go backwards in time. I remember denying the voice and saying to myself, I have gone crazy.

The next morning I awoke I was convinced that God was real and I had to prove my love for him, by attempting to burn down our house (this is where I fully agree with my treating psychiatrist and psychologists that I was experiencing an acute psychotic episode). My brother found me and stopped me as I was flicking matches at our carpet. I told him everything again, about the dream, about God and my belief in him and how he was punishing me. I told my brother about the predictions the voice in my head which I believed was God the Father made. He wrote them down and insisted that he would show me that none of those things were true.

I calmed down a bit and believed him, surely i had just gone out of my mind, there is no God and there is no time travel, heaven or hell. I confessed everything to my mother as well. I went to my local GP asking to be referred to a psychologist or psychiatrist, i didnt care which one. I was convinced I was just mentally ill.

That day I went to the closest hospital and admitted myself to the psychiatric ward, I was sure that I just needed to complete the treatment and I would be better. When this happened the voice told me, you will leave this place early and all shall come to pass. I demanded to my psychiatrist and psychologist that I not be allowed to leave until after I had completed the entire course.

It came to the end of the first week at the psychiatric ward and I was sure that I would complete it without anything the voice told me come true. At the end of every week the staff would allow the patients to go visit their families since there were no mental health courses over weekends. I was called to see my psychiatrist with my mother and the voice said to me "watch now" I walked into the room and the psychiatrist said we can just treat you as an out patient, you can go home now. My mother listened happily and attentively and asked are you ready to go home now. I was stunned, they knew my request but here they were asking me to leave. I couldnt speak, words would not come out of my mouth, all i could do was nod. We left the room and went to pack my things.

As we drove home all I could think about was the voice and its predictions, when we arrived home I asked my brother to destroy the sheet of paper with the predictions on it. I asked him repeatedly and he promised he had done so. That first day I went for a walk around our house across the road i saw another black greyhound. I ran home and basically had a panic attack which I hid from my family. This couldnt be happening, I was surely insane, the antipsychotic medicine would kick in at any moment it had to. 

That night I was terrified. I woke up and looked at my phone. The time was 3.33, I dont know how I knew but I knew that it was the witching hours most sacred time. An exact inversion of the time when Christ was crucified. I lay in bed praying to God to protect me from the witches who I am sure were coming to get me. I was horrified and remained so well into the next morning, i hadnt slept a wink. The next day passed and I was beginning to believe that the voice I called God was telling the truth. He told me "ask your mother to stop the medication" at this point I wanted to do everything this voice in my head told me. So i asked my mother and she stopped my medication that day. 

I went to sleep exhausted and woke again in the dark of the night. I looked at my watch again, it was 3.33 once again. My terror awoke once more and I spent that night terrified that my family was not my original family. I spent another sleepless night praying for help from God, his forgiveness and salvation. 

The next day I was exhausted, this time I went to my brother because the voice asked me "try to show him the way to salvation". So i talked to my brother and told him everything, he said "you cant trust your mind, dont you understand, its all in your head, you are sick". 

OF course I was, he was speaking total sense, it was all nonsense! I went and asked my mother if i could start the medication again, she said of course. I recieved a phone call it was for a job I had applied for at the Geological Survey. They said sorry your application has been denied. I couldnt care less, I had to take care of my mind.

I decided I was going to go for a walk, this was crazy, there was no God, all of this was just in my head. I went for a walk in the afternoon, it was a bright sunny day. After a few minutes i turned a corner and standing before me was a white greyhound. There was not a blemish on it, I remember it walking up to me and staring intently at me. I ran home, noone was there. No it had to be a psychotic vision, surely! 

The voice spoke up again "go to your brothers drawer". I was horrified but obeyed, I opened it and inside sat the note with all my predictions on it. I stood horrified, two of three had come true, I had spent a night terrified of witches, I had spent a night terrified of my family, surely i couldnt go backwards in time.

I opened a bible in my mothers room and read the passage. It described that the wicked would run from nothing and be destroyed. I flipped to another page and it read "there are three things pleasing to the Lord... A greyhound".

This couldnt be happening, how was this happening, how was any of this happening!? I ran and got into my bed and prayed furiously for forgiveness of all my sins, I was terrified and crying. I dont know when but i eventually fell asleep. I awoke again a few hours later, it was pitch black, the time read 2.22. I knew what would happen now. I began praying for forgiveness more sincerely and more terrified than I had ever done before. I dont know how much time passed but after a while the voice said "all is forgiven" "you will pass now". 

I began to feel something which i find difficult to describe, it was in a word, salvation. Peace. love. acceptance. forgiveness and happiness. I went from terrified and hopeless to the greatest state of bliss I had ever experienced. It was like a soothing wave had come over me and enveloped me, it consumed me, it was me. A different voice spoke up this time, I identified it immediately as Jesus Christ. He said to me "whoever you ask now to be saved, will be". I wish to this day I had spent more than a second thinking about it, because I knew, and the voice of God told me. That if i spoke another word I would relive the worst two years of my life minute for minute. I opened my mouth without hesitation, I said "God please grant salvation to my family, my mother, brother, sister and father, grant salvation to all my friends and please God grant salvation to all mankind, from the worst murderer to the kindest person". As soon as I had spoken the words the feeling of bliss and serenity was leaving me, it was like a wave pulling out from shore. I became aware again of my body and my pain and thoughts. Shit. I realised what I just did, i condemned myself to relive the worst two years of my life from the very moment they started.

The last thoughts I remember think was "well at least my europe trip was ok I guess". When i went to sleep that night it was sometime in April of 2016. As i fell asleep I just saw darkness and I suddenly felt myself spinning, it was like i was spinning around and around. I awoke immediately after the spinning had stopped.

I noticed upon opening my eyes that my room was different. My pet snake was in his cage at the bottom of my bed (i had given him back to the breeder in april of 2014). My bed was my old one we had thrown out at the rubbish tip. I looked and my phone was gone, it was my old phone. I ran downstairs and saw my computer which had been in Canberra a few weeks previously. I went to it with great hesitation and read the date, september 29th 2013. The voice had told the truth. I had gone backwards in time, my mother came downstairs and I looked at her and after a second a haze came over me. I became confused, where was i what was I doing.

After a second all my memories of going backwards in time, of the past (now future?) two years had vanished with it. I spent the next two years reliving every moment exactly the same as I had in the previous timeline, from the dream of the black greyhound , the mining job I hated, through to the menial waste of time that was packing boxes in a warehouse. There was one key difference however, at each of these key moments I remember a voice saying to me "Weve been here before". I ignored the voice and wilfully remained an atheist and relived those awful two years again.

It got finally once again to the 24th of March 2016. This time however something different happened, the voice told me the predictions again, but at the same time all my memories of the original timeline of those three nights of terror and of being sent backwards in time came flooding back. I went to the liqour store again and saw a black greyhound in the distance, I remember saying fuck it. and walked to the liqour store and bought some rum and cokes. This time as I walked home a different sight greeted me, it was a man playing with a small golden retriever puppy. I asked him how it was and he said "im not sure yet, it depends on him whether he comes out good or bad".

I once again went home on the bus and saw the car with the number plate Nt NRML infront of me the entire ride. I knew that God was real, I had experienced it. I was living it.

I once again ended up admitting myself to the hospital, I had a different psychiatrist this time. I didnt have faith in God, faith implies an element of uncertainty to me. I KNEW God was real. He had sent me backwards in time. I told my story to my psychologist, to my family. They all dismissed it as psychosis. I knew that If i stopped believing in God the same thing would happen.

This time something different occurred. I actually ended up staying the entire time in the hospital, my doctors tried their best to stop me from believing I had gone back in time. To deny it would have been as impossible to me to deny this very moment as I type my story out to you reader. 

While I was in the psychiatric ward I though to myself maybe i should order myself some cool stuff for when I get out. I decided no, the Christ like thing to do would be to donate all my money. I donated through my phone the last few hundred dollars I had. Not an hour passed and I recieved a phone call. It was the Geological Survey asking if in a few weeks I would like to start a contract. I couldnt believe it. In the first timeline they rejected me and now they were offering me a job. I was astounded.

Instead of being admitted early from the hospital I completed the full course. I spoke to my brother on the phone the day I left hospital and he said see it was all in your head, none of your predictions came true. I was puzzled. They did in the first timeline, why did they not come true this timeline.

The next two years after being released from hospital have been the polar opposite of my experience the two years prior. I recieved a permanet position as a Geologist at the geological survey. I found a girlfriend. but one thing remained, a desire and yearning to feel those feelings I had experienced just prior to being sent backwards in time. I stumbled across a number of books detailing peoples NDE's and the like. All of their NDEs talked about Heaven for everyone. None of this made sense. Had heaven rejected me? was I now condemned because I had spoken to live out an eternity stuck on Earth seperated from Gods love?

For the past two years the voice that I believe is God has been talking to me trying to provide me with answers, all I could do was dismiss his answers. it all seemed too good to be true. I was certain I had blown my only chance at heaven. For the past two years despite having every material thing I could ever hope for i have know so much anxiety and over the past four weeks prior to writing this depression. I told myself terrible things like God had cast me aside, that heaven would never recieve me and that not a single soul in heaven cared for me.

The voice I identify as God said to me "i am moving heaven and earth to get you out of this dark place". My anxiety and depression reached the tipping point two days ago, In my head I could picture only a thin silver shining string which to me was hope and I just saw me clinging to it. I have to hope in Heaven and God and salvation. It became too much, I decided i may as well give up on believing in my experience. Whats the point in knowing God is real if he wont save you? I saw in my head my hand holding the rope and letting go. Almost as soon as I had seen my hand let go of the rope I saw in my mind another hand grab my own, it was shining silver and golden. The voice behind the hand said let me help you.

It seemed a familiar voice I couldnt place. I went to my bed and just lay down. The voice introduced itself. It was my cousin who had passed away years ago. He said lets get you out of this dark place and take you to heaven. I said okay. I lay in my bed asking him what to do. He just said follow my voice. I obeyed. he called out repeatedly and each time I followed his voice.

After a while another voice called out to me in my head. It was Jesus, I knew him at an instant because I recognised him from the first time line. He said come follow my voice. I did.

After a while I became aware of a faint silver light coming from the bottom of my vision. Coming from me. I looked and saw this small faintly shining sphere of silver light. I asked Jesus and my cousin what it was. They said it was my soul. I asked why it looked so small and broken. They said because you have hurt yourself so much. They said did you want to let go of it. I replied no, its me and i love me. As soon as I said that I experienced an intense sensation, It was the purest golden shining Joy I could describe, it surrounded and enveloped me. It was inside me and it was me. I didnt know I had this much Joy inside myself.

I asked if i could have this feeling forever, if I could go to heaven and just experience this joy for the rest of time. The voice of God spoke up and said "it is not yet your time my child" I understood. I had to share my Joy, my happiness with everyone I could. I realised I had to share my story in case it could help someone else who had gone through the same. I opened my eyes and the feeling of bliss was gone, all my anger and self loathing, my depression and misery was gone. Just the experience of the Joy inside me overwhelmed me. 

I am writing this account about two days after this latest experience had happened. I am still talking to the voice of God in my head. I told my psychiatrist and psychologist about it. Once again gentle dismissal, its all in your head. That may be but that doesnt mean its not true.

Again reader, I dont know if I can classify any of this as an NDE or STE. I have long since given up on the idea that I know anything other than the fact that God is real and he is always with us.



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Re: The account of my NDE and STE

Post by ano1 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:47 pm

Wow. That sounds like you have been through quite a lot of challenges.
I too, know that God is real and always with us.
I have had similar communications, though none so dramatic as yours.
I do know that much more is going on around us than anyone realizes.
I try to stay positive and open to the spirit... our guidance and protector.

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Re: The account of my NDE and STE

Post by Giulia » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:37 am

Thank you ever so much for posting your story. May I just ask clarification about one thing I might have missed? When you prayed for the salvation of everyone and realised you would be re-living the last two years, and there was a different ending, in that you were actually hired, for instance... Was there a beginning and an end in this second timeline with a different outcome? In other words: what is it that you feel was the spiritually transformative experience? Can you identify it by saying it started at a certain point and ended at a certain point?

Apologies if you mentioned it and I missed it. I just wanted to make sure I understand the experience. Thank you.
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Re: The account of my NDE and STE

Post by iaminsane » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:00 am

Hi all,

Giulia regarding your question. The beginning of the spiritually transformative experience in this timeline began the 24th of March 2016 to be exact, that was the night when all the memories of going backwards in time and the original timeline became apparent to me. I tried fighting it but even as I did I knew that was futile, God was real and in my own way I had experienced it so vividly that I cannot deny it.
Like I said in this timeline the events only started to diverge and not repeat exactly as it had in the first timeline as soon as that began, for example instead of the black greyhound being the only thing I saw I found the man with his puppy instead. Instead of the one psychiatrist that I had in the first timeline I had another one, though the first one I had was still practicing at the same clinic and I knew her immediately when I saw her. Instead of coming home early and being 50/50 that I was experiencing proof of God, I stayed in hospital and since that day havent doubted for a second the reality of God.
As for the spiritually transformative experience I can only really say its ongoing I guess, I have spent the past two years hiding my story because of the negative reactions from my doctors, friends and family, but I am now at the point where I think I have to share it and that I need to reach out to people who may be able to entertain the idea that I may be telling the truth.
The odd thing is, I accept I was psychotic, within a few weeks of beginning medication my paranoia about witches coming to get me and my family not being real were gone. But even after two years of staying on high dosages of medication my memory of going backwards in time and the original timeline are still as vivid as ever. I have been told that it is just a psychotic memory and I should ignore it, but how can you ignore and dismiss the most important thing thats ever happened to you? I experienced in my own way proof of the existence of God. Will anyone ever believe my story is more than the ramblings of a mentally ill person? Well i suppose that does not matter in the end, I have shared my truth and my experience and to me that is all I can do.
I hope that answers your question Giulia, if not ill try and elaborate a bit more.

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Re: The account of my NDE and STE

Post by Giulia » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:26 am

iaminsane wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:00 am
I hope that answers your question Giulia, if not ill try and elaborate a bit more.
Hi, Iam, thanks for your answer. Are you saying you remember having lived two versions of the last two years, day after day, so that they come across as four years altogether? And that you are now living in the second version? If so, does the first timeline feel sort of different compared to the second one, or compared to any other two-year period you recollect about your life?
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Re: The account of my NDE and STE

Post by Marguy » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:50 am

Hi 'iaminsane',
This is a very awesome experience. I never had any NDE or similar experience but I have translated some 1700 experiences and as far as I remember I haven't read any like this. But I have a very special way of looking at our life, so I will tell you this, it might help you in considering and accepting your experience.
We as humans, every single one of us, is living in his own world. We think that we are all living in the same world and that we see what our neighbor is seeing and that we experience what our neighbor is experiencing, but this is not true. If we 'see' something this seeing happens according to our interests, mental state in which we are at that time, if we have been anticipating it or not, was it sudden, and of course very much how we interprete what we see etc... And what we 'see' has always to do with light reflection on objects, never with what the objects really are, as light is only interacting with the 'surface' of things. The light waves touch our eyes the information is converted into nerve impulses, go up into our brain and our brain is effectively creating the image out of those informations, according to our way of considering the world, and so we see an image.It's even not sure if the red color that I'm seeing is the same red color that you are seeing. It is never the real thing. In this way everything what we experience of this world makes it's way through our brain and so it is definitely sure that we all live in our own world, which is created by our brain.
The big problem is that most people don't know how we are functioning and believe that what they experience is the same thing as what everybody else experiences, and when somebody has different and unusual experiences than they have, they quickly judge them as crazy. Since the dawn of mankind there have been people experiencing special and unusual things. I have come to the conclusion that we should accept our experiences without too much comparing ourselves to the others.
Concerning your bad parts of the experience, I have to say that some of the experiences that I translated also consisted of negative experiences, hellish and others. Most of the time those people described that they had plenty of fears, anxiousness and so on, from the very beginning, and my opinion is that those fears contributed to the negative aspects.
Like in our life here, our consciousness is very creative in the 'afterlife?' It can create good and bad.
In the end the most important thing is to have a positive attitude, to try to live your life with an attitude of love towards everything.
To accept yourself with love. As the source of the universe is accepting everything in love.
Have a nice time
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Re: The account of my NDE and STE

Post by Marguy » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:48 am

Hi 'iminsane',

Further to my previous post, I would like to expose a few ideas how your experience could have happened the way it did. I try to explain it rationally. For this I have to turn towards NDEs.
Many NDErs have had during their NDE what is called a life-review, meaning they have been reliving (not remembering) parts of, and for some, even of their complete past life, including all the feelings they had. After coming back into their body they found out that here on earth only seconds or minutes had passed. Most NDErs claim that time does not exist in that realm. A few NDErs also say hat they have been shown parts of their future, but their memory concerning those parts had been blocked, and they only remembered that something the like happened. I have to emphasize that all this was experienced when their consciousness had separated from the body.
If time doesn't exist in that realm then it is conceivable that the access to life experiences can go in both directions, past and future.
Now, what would happen if somebody came back, after an NDE or a similar experience, with a full memory of a part of his future life? If this person had been 'pre-living' a part of his 'future' life? (Here I have to say that those NDErs who kept slight memories of the future stated that the future is not set in stone! It could be changed.)
How would this person react when being back and seeing that he/she is back in the past? Probably the first reaction would be that it was a very vivid dream. But what if in the following weeks and months this person will experience, that things reproduced almost exactly as he/she knew that they would be? It would be normal (and very rational) to think that he/she had regressed in time. In a certain sense this happened, because he/she has a memory with facts and feelings of that time. Of course all the surrounding people, family, etc.. will dismiss this and consider the person as insane, and at the end this person will believe being insane as nobody can explain, or even conceive of what happened.
Now comes another question: Why?
Why would somebody have such an experience. What is the reason that the future memory has not been blocked as with other NDErs? Difficult to say, but (just maybe) it could be to help this person to change it's way of thinking, and if this occurs the future outcome might be totally different.
Best regards
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Re: The account of my NDE and STE

Post by iaminsane » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:32 am

Giulia wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:26 am
iaminsane wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:00 am
I hope that answers your question Giulia, if not ill try and elaborate a bit more.
Hi, Iam, thanks for your answer. Are you saying you remember having lived two versions of the last two years, day after day, so that they come across as four years altogether? And that you are now living in the second version? If so, does the first timeline feel sort of different compared to the second one, or compared to any other two-year period you recollect about your life?
Hi Giulia,
To try and answer your question essentially I remember living 2014 and 2015 twice each of these years completely identical. So a total of 4 years, I remember however in the first timeline a completely different end to those years from what I've experienced in our current timeline. In the first timeline, which I will call the original I doubted repeatedly what I was experiencing and that God was real and it ended with me waking up two years in the past. In this timeline what I refer to as our current timeline I instead haven't doubted for even a second that God is real and that what I experienced was real. So instead of being rejected for my dream job, and living out fear and torment until I ultimately went backwards in time I instead got my dream job, tried convincing others about the first timeline I experienced and have lived out 2016, 2017 and now 2018. In the first timeline I never got to see past April of 2016, I'm still unsure if this is because in the original timeline I died and went backwards in time or just because I just went backwards in time. If I did die I have no recollection of seeing anything other NDErs have except a spinning black tunnel.

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Re: The account of my NDE and STE

Post by iaminsane » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:43 am

Marguy wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:48 am
Hi 'iminsane',

Further to my previous post, I would like to expose a few ideas how your experience could have happened the way it did. I try to explain it rationally. For this I have to turn towards NDEs.
Many NDErs have had during their NDE what is called a life-review, meaning they have been reliving (not remembering) parts of, and for some, even of their complete past life, including all the feelings they had. After coming back into their body they found out that here on earth only seconds or minutes had passed. Most NDErs claim that time does not exist in that realm. A few NDErs also say hat they have been shown parts of their future, but their memory concerning those parts had been blocked, and they only remembered that something the like happened. I have to emphasize that all this was experienced when their consciousness had separated from the body.
If time doesn't exist in that realm then it is conceivable that the access to life experiences can go in both directions, past and future.
Now, what would happen if somebody came back, after an NDE or a similar experience, with a full memory of a part of his future life? If this person had been 'pre-living' a part of his 'future' life? (Here I have to say that those NDErs who kept slight memories of the future stated that the future is not set in stone! It could be changed.)
How would this person react when being back and seeing that he/she is back in the past? Probably the first reaction would be that it was a very vivid dream. But what if in the following weeks and months this person will experience, that things reproduced almost exactly as he/she knew that they would be? It would be normal (and very rational) to think that he/she had regressed in time. In a certain sense this happened, because he/she has a memory with facts and feelings of that time. Of course all the surrounding people, family, etc.. will dismiss this and consider the person as insane, and at the end this person will believe being insane as nobody can explain, or even conceive of what happened.
Now comes another question: Why?
Why would somebody have such an experience. What is the reason that the future memory has not been blocked as with other NDErs? Difficult to say, but (just maybe) it could be to help this person to change it's way of thinking, and if this occurs the future outcome might be totally different.
Best regards
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Hi Marguy,
Thankyou for the long posts, essentially I think I experienced what I experienced because I was meant to do so. The first timeline and me being sent backwards in time I think was a message to me that God is real and it was a combination of my choice as well, I think I needed proof that God wasn't just this voice in my head. Re-experiencing 2014 and 2015 (refer to my reply to Giulia) but with a different outcome at the end I think was God's way of showing me that my life is far better when I have a relationship with him. From about 2010 I was a militant atheist, God to me was nothing more than a delusion of the uneducated. I think God had to show me in a way I could not deny that he was real and he was very much involved in our lives. And yes when I experienced all those negative things I was in a state of sheer terror, so your conclusion that my experience was because of my dear is something I wholeheartedly agree with. Because ultimately I don't think the devil or the background was a 'real' spirit of that makes sense, it was a useful construct of God and my mind to come to terms with his reality.

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Re: The account of my NDE and STE

Post by iaminsane » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:47 pm

To anyone who may come across this, please disregard everything about it, it's just the ramblings of someone who suffered from psychosis.

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Re: The account of my NDE and STE

Post by Giulia » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:02 am

iaminsane wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:47 pm
To anyone who may come across this, please disregard everything about it, it's just the ramblings of someone who suffered from psychosis.
Hi, IAm!

The world is full of people who think they know the TRUTH and that they can judge what’s normal what is not. A bunch of such people invented all sorts of DISORDERS so that the pharmaceutical companies could make a lot of money. But money and drugs are not the answer to our deepest existential dilemmas. Most of us only get flashes of what the TRUTH might be.

That is one of the reasons why this safe place exists. To allow for people to share their experiences.

Thanks for providing the clarifications I asked for. As soon as I get a chance I would like to share my own experiences with deja vus.

In the meantime, here is an account I shared some time ago: viewtopic.php?f=126&t=1514&hilit=Lucy.
Hello from Italy - How I found out about NDERF - A Strange Experience

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Re: The account of my NDE and STE

Post by iaminsane » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:33 am

Hi Giulia,

Thankyou for sharing that story with me, I am having a difficult time right now because almost all the people I have shared my story with have written it off as psychosis and nothing more. When the most important thing that ever happened to you is constantly and routinely dismissed you wonder what is the point of sharing it in the first place. I've come to a point where I figure I may as well just call my experience psychosis like everyone else has and just leave it behind and give up on spirituality. At least that way I can lead a normal life I guess. Thankyou for taking the time to hear me out Giulia.

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Re: The account of my NDE and STE

Post by Giulia » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:50 am

iaminsane wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:33 am
When the most important thing that ever happened to you is constantly and routinely dismissed you wonder what is the point of sharing it in the first place.
EXACTLY!!!!

Many of us have been there. It can take patience and persistence to find the right people to share such experiences with. This is why this haven exists.

I am especially impressed with Marguy's comments, as she is an expert in the field of Near-Death Experiences and in conveying the essence of such experiences to so-called 'ordinary' people.

The difficulty we share may be one of the reasons why famous Afterlife researchers gave up trying to communicate after their final transition, whereas others did not.

I have just discovered my signature links are not working: this may have happened as a result of our recent migration, or else may be just a visualisation problem on my side.

Anyway, I hope you will enjoy reading some of the accounts shared here and let us have your thoughts. :)
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