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No limits
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:51 pm
by DTR1975
I found this passage in Letters from Julia. It is a mediumistic account of a recently deceased women.
Here she states:
"What oppresses us, if we may use the word, always and everywhere is the illimitableness of the universe. Up and down we see it unfolding always and ever. When we make the most effort to exhaust the subject the more inexhaustible it appears"
I remembered in astronomy class and from many YouTube videos about how the universe is constantly expanding. Maybe it continues to expand because the universe is unlimited.
Re: No limits
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 9:37 am
by DTR1975
Maybe the universe wasn't created. Maybe it is still in the process of being created. If God is truly unlimited, then maybe the universe he is building is also unlimited.
Re: No limits
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:25 pm
by learnerjordan
DTR1975 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 9:37 am
Maybe the universe wasn't created. Maybe it is still in the process of being created. If God is truly unlimited, then maybe the universe he is building is also unlimited.
Here’s a passage from Sandi T’s experience that you might find interesting, and if you want to read the whole thing, i should warn you that she details her experience with abuse. trigger warning.
https://www.nderf.org/Experiences/1sandi_t_ndes.html
I understood that everything that we do here on Earth, all that we are, all that we experience, allows creation to exist. Every beautiful thing, every wonderful being and creature, whether on earth or in any universe, relies upon people who are on the extremely rare places like Earth.
The Great Intelligence (god) is a paradox. It is completely loving and fully unlimited. Which by the definition of paradox, means it is impossible? It cannot be limited only to love; it cannot be limited to only being unlimited; or it is not unlimited.
Earth is a place where the unlimited becomes limited; where the singular becomes many. Here, it can know community and loneliness. It can know heartache and hope. It can know all which an unlimited being of pure love cannot. It can conceive and perceive evil; which in truth it cannot do this either. To solve the paradox, it must experience helplessness and limitation and all as it is Real. In this place, it is all so REAL.
So what is free will? Free will is the option to come here to help solve the paradox of 'god'. To be all that we are not, so that everything wondrous and joyful may continue to exist. So that love itself may continue to exist. So that the Unlimited is not limited to being only unlimited.
Why are the answers always, 'simply to exist' and 'to choose love' and 'to learn how to love'? Because all you need to do, to solve the paradox, is to exist. And as we exist here, each time we choose love, we expand the universe. Love is life's longing for itself. Despite the reality of what we live, even the darkest souls among us cannot help but to reach, to yearn, and move towards goodness and towards love.
For love is the true nature of who we are. And when we experience horrible things, the question 'why' comes to mind because it is the central question of love, life, and of this world. The answer is 'so that all things might continue to exist.'
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Re: No limits
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:44 pm
by Giulia
Hi, Jordan.
The passage you quoted presents a fascinating perspective on the meaning of life and our place in the universe. Here's a breakdown of some key points and potential areas for further exploration:
The Paradox of the Great Intelligence
The concept of a completely loving and unlimited being is presented as a paradox. It can't be confined by limitations like love or being unlimited itself.
Earth, with its limitations and experiences of joy, sorrow, good, and evil, serves as a stage for this unlimited being to experience what it can't on its own.
The Role of Humanity
Our existence and choices, particularly choosing love, are seen as vital to sustaining the existence of everything, including love itself.
This suggests an incredible responsibility on our part. We are co-creators of reality in a way.
Free Will and the Nature of Love
Free will allows us to choose, potentially choosing against love. This choice is what enables the experience of the paradox.
Love is described as life's longing for itself, a fundamental force. Even in darkness, there's a yearning for good.
Questions to Consider
Is this a literal interpretation of a god experiencing limitations through humanity, or a metaphor for the interconnectedness of existence?
Does this perspective diminish individual free will, suggesting our purpose is predetermined?
What are the limitations of love in this context? Can love exist without its counterpart, like hate?
This passage offers a thought-provoking way to view our place in the universe. Whether you agree with it entirely or not, it encourages reflection on life's purpose, the power of choice, and the importance of love.