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How do I rule out NDEs as satanic deceptions?
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:12 am
by Giulia
Here is a question people sometimes ask about. They worry that NDEs may be a trick of the devil.
Re: How do I rule out NDEs as satanic deceptions?
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 2:19 am
by Zen Tzu
Cara Giulia, thank you for adding this section! I find this to be a very interesting topic which you and I have discussed in the past.... You may recall that I have actually been told that among other experiences, my vivid dream visitations with my parents are not actually my parents but negative entities trying to deceive me! Personally I find this to be absolute rubbish and have resented when this has been suggested
Re: How do I rule out NDEs as satanic deceptions?
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:59 am
by Giulia
Yes, I remember, Diane.
This question was actually posted in the old version of the forum, and it generated an interesting and thought-provoking thread, despite the fact that the user who had originally asked the question never provided any feedback.
I am hoping that one of our Admin team members from those days might join back and tackle the question, because he is really very good at it.
About your dream experiences and the idea that our loved ones may not be themselves, but negative (or positive) entities, based on my experience, this is not only untrue, but a very hurtful and dangerous idea, especially for people in grief.
I happened to be emotionally weak from the loss of a dear friend in 2004, when I joined a group run by a well known NDEr, and she kept saying that our loved ones loose their identy after death, and when we die we are met by well meaning angels who pretend to be our loved ones. That was a really devastating idea at the time, but it encouraged me to further investigate the matter. Thatβs how 10 years later I came up with my firm conclusions about how things really work: my father died that year in June, but nine months later I had a 15-minute meeting with him in Heaven, which I believe I have shared in the OBE section. The memory of that meeting with my dad in Heaven has permanently replaced the memory of his lifeless body lying in the coffin.
Re: How do I rule out NDEs as satanic deceptions?
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:44 pm
by KiloTango
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 17 So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. 17 A good tree produces good fruit, and a bad tree produces bad fruit.
Are the results good or bad? I think NDEs bring many to God and thus most are good and originate from God. Some NDEs may be influenced by evil forces and may produce evil results. So the fruit, the results, seem to be a good method of determining the source of influence from an NDE.
Re: How do I rule out NDEs as satanic deceptions?
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:18 pm
by Giulia
Hello, KiloTango, and welcome to the Forum.
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Looking forward to hearing more from you.