The Kingdom of Heaven

User avatar
Giulia
Site Admin
Posts: 513
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:13 pm
Location: Italy
Has thanked: 167 times
Been thanked: 345 times
Contact:

Re: The Kingdom of Heaven

Post by Giulia »


Dmartin: Thanks, I first want to be clear about if the waveform is described as like something in Scripture. Such as the narrow gate. Matt 7:13-14, "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way (verses 7-8) which leads to life, and there are few who find it."
Hello, Dmartins.

In my opinion, this is a classical example of how the Gospel has been used to hide the truth and of how Jesus' words have most certainly been distorted to manipulate and mislead the minds of the majority of believers, to suggest that being poor, sad, sick, needy, hated, murdered and so on is good and fine and the right way to go.

In my opinion, the truth is the opposite: Jesus and other Masters have come to give us precious guidance about how wide and broad the way to the Kingdom of Heaven is and we have thrown those teachings away, because it was not in the interest of the few people who are really in control.

I feel that, if one feels the need to check the Scriptures before even only thinking, then they are giving away their freedom as Divine sparks to co-create with our Divine Source, which is a pity. Geova Witnesses are very good at this, and so are various cults that keep their followers prisoners of brainwashing.
Dmartin
Posts: 69
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:14 pm
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 27 times
Contact:

Re: The Kingdom of Heaven

Post by Dmartin »

Hello Giulia,
Giulia wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 12:04 am

Dmartin: Thanks, I first want to be clear about if the waveform is described as like something in Scripture. Such as the narrow gate. Matt 7:13-14, "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way (verses 7-8) which leads to life, and there are few who find it."
Hello, Dmartins.

In my opinion, this is a classical example of how the Gospel has been used to hide the truth and of how Jesus' words have most certainly been distorted to manipulate and mislead the minds of the majority of believers, to suggest that being poor, sad, sick, needy, hated, murdered and so on is good and fine and the right way to go.

In my opinion, the truth is the opposite: Jesus and other Masters have come to give us precious guidance about how wide and broad the way to the Kingdom of Heaven is and we have thrown those teachings away, because it was not in the interest of the few people who are really in control.

I feel that, if one feels the need to check the Scriptures before even only thinking, then they are giving away their freedom as Divine sparks to co-create with our Divine Source, which is a pity. Geova Witnesses are very good at this, and so are various cults that keep their followers prisoners of brainwashing.
Dmartin: Wow. I thought we and anthonychipoletti were somewhat understanding one another about the waveform. I'm sorry that you haven't understood anything I've said. I've said I do not follow any religion. I've said the Holy Spirit opened the scriptures to me in '95 He has taught me the truth that God is the only reason I'm of the truth. I've had no one likeminded with me learning them neither have I taught myself them. I've not been teaching believers. I do not lie. Jesus said His words will not pass away, they haven't. Contrary to what you say, I think what I'm going to say to someone first then I think of where I will hear and do His words that mine will be in agreement with His. I came here to see if I can help people spiritually understand NDEs further. I have known God and He has known me. I didn't come here to turn anyone away from Him and His Son.

Dmartin: If you still feel like what all you said above is right about me let me know. I will leave. I don't want to upset anyone to the point of accusing me of wrongdoing.
Dmartin
Posts: 69
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:14 pm
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 27 times
Contact:

Re: The Kingdom of Heaven

Post by Dmartin »

Hello anthonychipoletti,
anthonychipoletti wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:27 am https://www.ck12.org/section/the-wave-form-of-light/

The Wave Form of Light
Our entire universe is made up of matter, which is anything that has mass and occupies space. You now know that matter is composed of small building blocks known as atoms, and that these small building blocks are composed of even smaller subatomic particles called protons, electrons and neutrons. Matter is all around you and you can use the atomic, or subatomic, description of matter to understand anything from the cells in your body to the planet Earth!

Any object that you can hold or touch is matter. But our universe contains something else – something that you can’t really touch, but that you can certainly see (in fact, you can’t see without it!), and that you can often feel. It isn’t matter, because it doesn’t have any mass, nor does it occupy any space. Still it’s fundamentally important to our everyday lives, and we most definitely have a name for it. Can you think of what it is? If you haven’t guessed by now, the answer is light.
Dmartin: I don't know where it went, I seen you quoted Gen 1:3-5. In my previous post I had in mind as to NDEs the waveform is many times like a dark tunnel with a light toward/at the end of it. That is why I quoted the verse about the narrow gate. I've seen it within me as that way. Now you call the waveform is light like God created in the beginning He called the light day. It seems to me the waveform light would be better or higher connected with the light in the Lord than the light in the world. Eph 5:8, "For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light."

Dmartin: I'm just trying to help to further understand. I thought we have agreed somewhat and I've helped you a couple of times you said. But if I'm starting to upset you too I will leave. That's okay just let me know. Thanks.
Dmartin
Posts: 69
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:14 pm
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 27 times
Contact:

Re: The Kingdom of Heaven

Post by Dmartin »

anthonychipoletti wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 3:17 am
Dmartin: If you still feel like what all you said above is right about me about me let me know. I will leave. I don't want to upset anyone to the point of accusing me of wrongdoing.
DMARTIN PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT OUR COMMENTS ARE NOT AN ATTACK ON YOU !!

We are trying to understand VERY complicated ideas. That is why I use the word OPINION because I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING to be absolutely true or false, everything I think is JUST A WILD GUESS ?????????
Dmartin: I do understand what opinions are. I also understood your comments are not attacking me. I understood some comments to mean what I'm saying is wrong because the response to it sounded to me like accusations. That's why I said I that. I absolutely do know and understand the truth. Anyone can know and understand it. It is not complicated. I'll see if you hear it in my next response to you which I did earlier today and thought it got posted it didn't so I will do it again.
User avatar
Giulia
Site Admin
Posts: 513
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:13 pm
Location: Italy
Has thanked: 167 times
Been thanked: 345 times
Contact:

Re: The Kingdom of Heaven

Post by Giulia »

Hello, Dmartin. I am sorry I misunderstood you. I did not mean to upset anybody either.
Dmartin
Posts: 69
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:14 pm
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 27 times
Contact:

Re: The Kingdom of Heaven

Post by Dmartin »

Giulia wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:27 am Hello, Dmartin. I am sorry I misunderstood you. I did not mean to upset anybody either.
Hello Giula,

Ok, thank you. You didn't upset me. I was a bit surprised. I'm ok, even better now :)

I sent a post this morning and didn't see it get posted and I sent another one about thirty minutes ago in response to anthonychipoletti about Jesus is the light of world. I didn't see that one get posted either. I seen one post I sent to him got posted tonight. Can you check or test if it can be replied to? Thank you.
Dmartin
Posts: 69
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:14 pm
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 27 times
Contact:

Re: The Kingdom of Heaven

Post by Dmartin »

Hello anthonychipoletti,

Dmartin: After I comment on this post I'm going write the other quotes from our previous posts and answer your two questions. Follow the context in these replies from the current reply here.
anthonychipoletti wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 3:42 am
I absolutely do know and understand the truth. Anyone can know and understand it. It is not complicated. I'll see if you hear it in my next response to you which I did earlier today and thought it got posted it didn't so I will do it again.
PLEASE DMARTIN I AM DYING HERE LITERALLY I AM DYING :) please comment on truth before I actually die :)

Dmartin: Lol! Seeing that you are dying then get totally open minded put aside all thoughts and ideas of yours/others out of your mind. Let your mind go blank/free it can be done without dying, lol. Now you should be left with just your spirit's ear to hear and listen to new words which the truth is even the meanings of them are as they've not been heard since two thousand years ago unto the beginning. First, keep in mind that I'm able to correct if something is not said right about my words and/or Scripture's. That is a perk so to speak of being in the truth not that I'm boasting it is for benefitting anyone who should hear and understand it with their heart. See, it is not that I comment on truth, it is what I've said before since the Spirit opened Scripture to me I continue in being of the truth that I'm in the truth the words I speak are in the truth. There is no other way to know and understand the truth than being in the Spirit, even in God the Father, and in the Son. I'd say you already are in Them, so you have an ear to hear Them in Scripture. If you do hear the truth, then you should hear Their words are above mine. As I said above, follow in context here with my answers to your questions, you should hear that I'm knowing how to rightly divide the word of truth...

Dmartin: What I said in a previous post, "It seems to me the waveform light would be better or higher connected with the light in the Lord than the light in the world."

Dmartin: Anthonychipoletti replied in a previous post, "Dmartin, you seem to be saying that nothing in the 'world' is the 'light in the Lord'???

Dmartin: Yes. You are referring to nothing in the 'world' as the earth-ground, right? In Genesis 1:3-5 (I seen you quoted verse 4, the light context is in these three verses) God called 'the light Day'. He did not call the light Lord (at all in Genesis 1:3-5). Scripture further proves Day's light is on the earth, not in the Lord. In Genesis 1:14-19, God made two great lights to give light on the earth, Day's light is the greater light it rules the day (every day), Night's darkness is the lesser light it rules the night (every night).

Dmartin: Anthonychipoletti replied next in that previous post, "Jesus was in the world!! Are you saying that Jesus was not the light of the Lord WHILE HE WAS STILL IN THE WORLD???"

Dmartin: No, I'm not. Yes, Jesus was Himself the light of the Lord while he was still in the world. 'The world' is does not just mean the earth. 'The world' is better/higher in context as the ones Jesus and the Father are in. John 9:3-5, "Jesus answered, "Neither this (blind) man nor his parents sinned, but that the works of God should be revealed in him (each and every one They are in-the world). I must work the works of Him who sent Me while it is day (as long as He is in them-the world); the night (darkness-evil) is coming when no one can work. As long as I am in the world (in the ones who abide in His word), I am the light of the world (in the ones who abide in His word)."

Dmartin: Jesus and His Father are not in the rest of the world-they do/will not abide in His word. John 8:23-26, "And He said to them (Jews), "You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world (earth-see They are not in them); I am not of this world (earth). Therefore, I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins." Then they said to Him, "Who are You?" And Jesus said to them, "Just what I have been saying to you from the beginning. I have many things to say and to judge concerning you, but He who sent Me (to the ones They are in-the world) is true; and I speak to the world (the ones He and His Father do works in those should be revealed in them) those things which I heard from Him (to do in them-the world)."

Dmartin: Now I hope I see this gets posted :)

You can see Bard examine my idea about truth here: https://chipolettitrasenteancestry.blog ... ke-up.html

You cannot upset Giulia :) believe me I tried and she just forgives me ??

Maybe Giulia is God :) She certainly is to me :)

Dmartin
Posts: 69
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:14 pm
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 27 times
Contact:

Re: The Kingdom of Heaven

Post by Dmartin »

Dmartin: You're welcome anthonychipoletti :) Yes, I already know you :) I doubt the cat got your tongue lol. You sound like a babe. Yes, we can continue to communicate here. We can learn from Jesus. Matt 11:28-30, "Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." Matt 13:12a, "For whoever has (learned from Me), to him more (learning from Me) will be given, and he will have abundance;" Matt 13:52, "Then He said to them (His disciples), "Therefore every scribe instructed (having learned from Me) concerning the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out of his treasure things new and old."

Dmartin: See, you might can bring something out of your old treasure to say about the topic 'The Kingdom of Heaven.' If you learned it from Jesus it is still there :)

anthonychipoletti wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:22 pm Dmartin WOW !! Thank you for helping me to collect the ideas in a single comment :)

I cannot/will not add any more of my comments now as I am weary and exhausted :(

Anyway I have already said too much here and everywhere :) You already know me.

There is probably nothing else for me to say about the topic or my own silly ideas :)

Thank you for being patient and kind, I hope we can continue to communicate here.
Dmartin
Posts: 69
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:14 pm
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 27 times
Contact:

Re: The Kingdom of Heaven

Post by Dmartin »

anthonychipoletti wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:05 pm https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Mirrors
2 Corinthians 3:18

But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.


Dmartin: Yes, indeed! :) Perfect verse!!! Yes, you heard Jesus' word!!! You took His yoke upon you and learned this verse true meaning from Him in us :) You brought out new treasure in Him! :)

Beyond ALL things and thoughts, I see in the mirror which I LOOK into:

What if God is the best friend we could ever have, the funniest, most huggable, gets all our jokes, including the revelation that God is the REAL LIFE presence of every aspect of life, NO MATTER HOW messed up the physical reality is, we are always now and always have been in the perfect presence of a Loving God

What if we are the best, funniest and most huggable friend God could ever have and we get all God's jokes, including the revelation we are the REAL LIFE presence of every aspect of God, NO MATTER HOW messed up the physical reality is, God is always now and always has been in the perfect presence of our Loving Spirit
Dmartin: Then using the same verse you also took His yoke upon you and learned from Him to bring out this old treasure you've had in Him. Thanks for also sharing this :) Oh, and, "NO MATTER HOW messed up physical reality is' it is a light burden for Jesus to carry in you.
Dmartin
Posts: 69
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:14 pm
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 27 times
Contact:

Re: The Kingdom of Heaven

Post by Dmartin »

anthonychipoletti wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 3:53 am Dmartin, sorry it has taken me a while to consider so many new ideas here in this topic and many more in my studies.

Dmartin: That's ok, anthonychipoletti. I'm glad you took awhile to do this.

My thought about our comments in this topic: God LOVES us NO MATTER what we believe, think, say, do or pray for :)

Dmartin: Yes, He does. His love is what matters, and His love is what matters for us. 1John 4:7-8, "Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God."

We are free to do all those things in our human experience, however, our true LIFE is within our eternal spirituality ??

I believe we are always in the presence of God in our spiritual LIFE, we just get confused by the physical existence.

I am sure the physical existence has some importance or it would not exist otherwise ?? I am just not sure what it is :)

Dmartin: Yes, our true life is within our eternal spirituality. Yes, we are always in the presence of God in our spiritual life. Yes, the physical existence is important because we begin as babes in Christ. That our spiritual life will increase while we are still carnal. 1 Cor 3:1, "And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ." Vs 7, "So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase." God is who gives the increasing as spiritual people even to becoming likeminded. He also increases us as babes in Christ to becoming new creatures created in Christ Jesus unto good works. Just as we have been carnally minded is increasingly changed by God to spiritually minded so is our physical existence to be increasingly changed by God to being in Their image. Our own physical bodies will even be new. We won't be of the flesh anymore. Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.

Dmartin: You know God has increasingly been changing your mind from carnal to spiritual, right? Then I think you should also understand that He will also change our physical existence.

Dmartin wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:26 am
anthonychipoletti wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:05 pm https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Mirrors


Dmartin: Yes, indeed! :) Perfect verse!!! Yes, you heard Jesus' word!!! You took His yoke upon you and learned this verse true meaning from Him in us :) You brought out new treasure in Him! :)

Beyond ALL things and thoughts, I see in the mirror which I LOOK into:

What if God is the best friend we could ever have, the funniest, most huggable, gets all our jokes, including the revelation that God is the REAL LIFE presence of every aspect of life, NO MATTER HOW messed up the physical reality is, we are always now and always have been in the perfect presence of a Loving God

What if we are the best, funniest and most huggable friend God could ever have and we get all God's jokes, including the revelation we are the REAL LIFE presence of every aspect of God, NO MATTER HOW messed up the physical reality is, God is always now and always has been in the perfect presence of our Loving Spirit
Dmartin: Then using the same verse you also took His yoke upon you and learned from Him to bring out this old treasure you've had in Him. Thanks for also sharing this :) Oh, and, "NO MATTER HOW messed up physical reality is' it is a light burden for Jesus to carry in you.
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests