my NDERF blog page with transcript of video

[Giulia]

Hello, Anthony.

I was really interested in reading about Meditation-Induced NDEs.

There is only one thing I am wondering about. The article says:

All participants reported that the MI-NDE began with them consciously reducing the degree of connection to their physical worldly body. Participants referred to this as a process of 'gradual dissolution'… 'letting go of body'… or 'becoming untied,'” describes the study.

“[D]uring the next phase of the MI-NDE, they ceased to be aware of time and space. More specifically… they realised that time and space are relative phenomena that ultimately do not exist,” the report continues. “[T]he next phase of the MI-NDE involved encounters with non-worldly realms and beings… realms of 'torture'… where the beings 'hang from ropes'… and 'hungry ghost realms'".

Finally, participants described entering a state of “emptiness”, “voidness”, and “non-self”.

But unlike a normal NDE, the meditators remained aware and in control of the phenomenon – some could even decide for themselves the content and duration of the experience. And even more amazingly, it seems NDEs may be something you can learn, and improve with practice.

Why would the non-wordly realms be realms of ‘Torture’?

I would expect partipants to be spiritually evolved enough.

[Giulia]

Thank you, Anthony

I need to read these accounts carefully.

I must say that the first article you linked in your last post is more complete. For instance:

Non-worldly Encounters
All participants reported that the next phase of the MI-NDE involved encounters with non-worldly realms and beings. More specifically, participants recounted that they experienced (i) undesirable realms (that they referred to using terms such as “hell” [participants 2, 5, 6, 8 and 12], realms of “torture” [participants 1, 4 and 11], worlds where the beings “hang from ropes” [participants 3 and 7] and “hungry ghost realms” [participants 9 and 10]), (ii) other realms comprising humans and animals and (iii) realms where the inhabitants were partially or fully composed of light (that participants referred to using terms such as “heavens” [participants 1, 5, 6, 7 and 11], “godly realms” [participants 2, 4, 7 and 12] and “asura realms” [participants 3 and 9]). All participants (except participant 5) also made reference to encounters with three other categories of non-worldly beings: (i) recently deceased beings in the process of moving between worlds, (ii) demonic beings attempting to enter this or other realms and (iii) liberated beings not bound to a given worldly or non-worldly realm. In respect of this latter group comprising liberated beings, all participants (except participants 5 and 12) specifically reported they met with their spiritual teacher (whether living or deceased) who supported and guided them during (and following) the NDE.

[Giulia]

I am so sorry to hear about your physical restraints, Anthony. Is anybody taking care of you?

I like your approach.

I cannot help wondering whether anybody in the western world is attempting MI-NDEs as I would like to learn to do it myself.

I find the hellish aspect totally unnecessary, especially if the practitioner is spiritually evolved.

What do you think?